(August 6, 2014 at 3:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Important to Mr. Ryrie, perhaps, but that's not how crime is handled here. I like our system better, and despite our inability to consistently apply our principles, I think that they are far superior to the "important principle" thus elucidated. Here, all are equal under law - and this includes the victimizer or purported victimizer - all are granted due process.You have either misunderstood the principle or you have set up a straw man argument. You are arguing as if the 'important principle' asserts that the criminals are not treated equally nor given due process. It asserts no such thing.
To qualify, the 'equal under the law' and 'due process' is a right due the criminal, not the victim. Under God's law, all (criminals) are equal, and are given due process at the great white throne judgment.
(August 6, 2014 at 3:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Murder is not "more or less murderous" depending upon your victim. In fact, we get pretty riled up when people are sentenced in a pattern clearly defined by their victims. When a white man, for example, does less time for murdering a black, than a black does for murdering a white. The status of the victim (by any name) is a poor standard for determining the proper scale of any punitive measure.
Perhaps you're not understanding the argument or perhaps you're equivocating the word 'status'. When 'status' is being defined it is not due to external status (such as societal status, amount of wealth, vocational position, etc.) but rather it is an inherent quality, namely the criminal is a finite being and the victim is an infinite being.
To illustrate: if a man kills a man or a man kills a fish, certainly the punishment depends upon the status of the victim.
(August 6, 2014 at 3:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That a god may be defined as infinite in no way modifies any proposed crime one may commit against it.We aren't talking about modifying the crime, we're talking about the resulting punishment depending upon the status of the criminal and the victim.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?


