(August 8, 2014 at 3:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Any self identified christian is a "true christian" - end of. If they say they believe there we go. So you don't believe what they believe and also call yourself a christian? Tough titties, take a number.
This. Orangebox is asking that we all do exactly the kind of thing that drives me insane when theists do it to atheists, which is to deny their own agency of belief and pretend to know what's in their head better than they do. Not gonna do it.
There's people who are (debatably) good at being christians according to certain metrics, and there are people who are bad at being christians according to those same metrics, but that doesn't mean they aren't christians. I think the OP may have stumbled into another variant of the No True X fallacy, where he's trying to classify a continuum of skill levels at being a christian as a binary on/off proposition. But that's madness; you don't cease to be something just because you're bad at it. Even the world's worst professional soccer player is still a soccer player, he's not unemployed and just coincidentally playing soccer for money.
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