Christians. Could you be wrong?

[Huggy Bear]

It's a bit like those 'ghost investigation' shows, such as the much-derided Most Haunted, which make a huge deal out of stories of headless nuns and screaming banshees. Yet when they get right down to it, the most they can offer are 'mysterious' knocking sounds and 'orbs' and declare them as definite proof.

I don't know about anyone else, but if I go out to buy bananas and the grocer tries to sell me soggy lettuce leaves instead, swearing that it's what I asked for (or better still nothing at all) I'm going to feel cheated.

That would be consistent with the bible now, wouldn't it?

Did God not appear to Moses as a burning bush? Did he not lead the Hebrews out of Egypt as a pillar of fire? Did he not appear to Paul as a blinding light?

Not to mention what I posted has been scientifically vindicated.

Please elaborate on what you would consider as "evidence"?

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Are you really trying to push the placebo effect as the same thing as faith healing? Just no. Faith healing is about god interveneing or providing power to a chosen person. It is not the same as the placebo effect.

They are the same, but go ahead and explain how they are different.

And by "same" I'm mean they operate under the same principle. ..belief.