RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
August 13, 2014 at 2:13 pm
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2014 at 2:30 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(August 13, 2014 at 9:10 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Oh i remember that, the thread where you purposefully misquoted me in a desperate attempt to make me look foolish so that you could dismiss the rest of what I said. I think if you ask around, the only source of embarrassment there was you.Easily provable, go ahead and show where I misquoted you.
(August 13, 2014 at 9:10 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Oh so now the placebo effect is caused by gods power?I asked you a very simple question, explain how the "placebo effect" works"
(August 13, 2014 at 9:10 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: There has to be an outside source of power otherwise there would be nothing to have faith in.
Although the placebo effect does work, it doesn't work for big life-threatening or incurable diseases. Wasn't this woman blind? Or a leppar or something? If so: no, this was not the placebo effect.
The article I linked, which apparently you didn't read, was about a guy with terminal cancer. His tumor shrunk even though he was administered a placebo.
(August 13, 2014 at 10:37 am)Stimbo Wrote:(August 13, 2014 at 1:36 am)Huggy74 Wrote: responding to the part in bold.
Why, because you can't respond to the rest of it? Interesting
No, because responding to that made the rest of your post moot.
(August 13, 2014 at 1:36 am)Huggy74 Wrote: You do realize what a placebo is right? It's a fake treatment, meaning there was no actual medical treatment preformed and yet the patients health improved. the "placebo effect" contributes this to the faith of the patient.
Then we're agreed: faith healing = placebo = fake treatment. That the patients' health improved has nothing to do with the 'treatment' and everything to do with the patient. Where is "God" in this picture?
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I see you have conveniently ignored the definitions of the "placebo effect" being attributed to ones belief (faith). That would make "faith healing" (one being healed by their faith) and the "placebo effect" (one being healed by their faith) one and the same.
If God was doing the healing, then healing would be instantaneous, and that would be called a miracle, not faith healing.