(August 13, 2014 at 6:38 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(August 13, 2014 at 6:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: How do you figure i'm squirming away when i clearly established my position from the beginning.
My point was that faith healing was real and corroborated by scientific studies on the "placebo effect". Faith has absolutely nothing to do with God or religion but is simply defined in the bible as "the substance of things hoped for".
So how do you explain nocebos occurring during placebo studies? Or the reverse?
Placebos are not a defined mechanism whereby the wishes of the patient are automatically translated into a regression of symptoms or indeed a 'cure'. Indeed, as I've already stated to you and you ignored, the presence of a placebo in the absence of a physical active ingredient that causes the hypothesised effect is actually evidence of no physical effect. That's why double blind studies are conducted.
Firstly your article states "The nocebo effect is less well-studied and well-known, by both scientists and the public, than the placebo effect." So to try and make a comparison between the two is futile since both were not studied to the same degree.
But since I've been saying all along that faith is A-religious, it can act in the positive or negative.