RE: After I know this how could I leave the church?
August 14, 2014 at 8:45 am
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2014 at 8:49 am by jughead.)
(August 13, 2014 at 8:30 am)sophonian Wrote: I know that you are going to laugh. I only hope an explanation for this. I would like to think that these facts were not true. I was more happy when i was not a christian.
Tertullian was a roman lawyer that becomecome a christian. He had access to roman documents and made some declarations about 1st century A.D like this:
Quote:Tiberius6 accordingly, in whose days the Christian name made its entry into the world, having himself received intelligence from Palestine of events which had clearly shown the truth of Christ's divinity, brought the matter before the senate, with his own decision in favour of Christ. The senate, because it had not given the approval itself, rejected his proposal. Caesar held to his opinion, threatening wrath against all accusers of the Christians. [3] Consult your histories; you will there find that Nero was the first who assailed with the imperial sword the Christian sect, making profess then especially at Rome.
The thing that dont let me go from christianity is the fact that he says that in roman documents it is registered that when Jesus died there was a big portent in the sky; so we are not talking about an story recorded only in the gospels.
Quote:He exhibited many notable signs, by which His death was distinguished from all others. At His own free-will, He with a word dismissed from Him His spirit, anticipating the executioner's work. In the same hour, too, the light of day was withdrawn, when the sun at the very time was in his meridian blaze. Those who were not aware that this had been predicted about Christ, no doubt thought it an eclipse. You yourselves have the account of the world-portent still in your archives.
Jesus never existed.
All your claims are based on wishfrul thinking, fabrication and fantasy. Religion is all man made and regional. If you would have been born in the middle east you would be lecturing us on Allah. If you lived in Utah you would be wearing magic underwear and looking for Jesus on some planet named Kolob.
Wake up...it is all man made lies.
(August 13, 2014 at 9:04 am)Michael Wrote: Hi Ben
As a Christian, I would be wary of putting too much weight on this. As a Christian, this can be used as secondary supportive material. But if you're not a Christian there are ways to reject it. I think the primary reason for being a Christian, or at least starting to walk down that path, is always the question of whether you find Jesus a compelling character: a person, or even an idea, that you think leads us somewhere better than where we are right now.
Sure the myth of Jesus is compelling. But say you are following 'the myth of Jesus' and you subscribe to Christian principle like charity and good will. Just don't promote is as truth.
