RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
August 14, 2014 at 1:16 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2014 at 1:17 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(August 3, 2014 at 3:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Earlier I posted an old video (recorded sometime in the 1950's) of a man doing exactly the same thing. In case you haven't seen it: When people would come up to the stage to be healed, he, having never met the person, could tell them what sickness they had, name, and address ect.
So miracle-working Christians can do things that a stage mentalist can do with trickery? Not very impressive. Especially when they've been caught at it before. There's a book somewhere that warns against being impressed by Christian charlatans.
(August 3, 2014 at 3:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: This isn't done to showoff, it's done because divine healing is operated by faith (scientific studies using placebos show this). And gift of discernment makes it easier for the person to believe.
It's done so the show will be good enough that people will donate more.
(August 3, 2014 at 3:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Miracles are operated by faith and the fact that you claim to be an unbeliever ensures that you will never see the supernatural. was not Jesus himself unable to preform miracles in a certain city because the peoples unbelief was so great?
The city where they knew him before he got famous, perchance? The only place in the world where they knew what he was like before he started being taken for the messiah? What do you think it might say about a presidential candidate if they can't carry their home state?
Jesus isn't powerful enough to overcome simple skepticism, and neither are you, even with God on your side, is your position. That makes a lot more sense if the skeptics are the ones who are right.
(August 3, 2014 at 3:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: If you're looking to see miracles, you will most likely not see them in developed 1st world countries but in some poor backwater 3rd world nations, where faith is a way of life (rich people tend to rely on money). Which also has the side effect of no one ever hearing about them.
You mean places where people have a tendency to take whatever they see and hear at face value? I bet they disappear as soon as a skeptic is close enough to see what's really going on too, especially if the skeptic has a video camera. I used to hear about them all the time: but it's like miracles hide when there's someone recording events, because word of mouth was all that was ever offered. You can say anything happened in Africa in a Pentecostal church in America and the Pentecostals will take your word for it as long as it sounds like what they want to believe.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.