(August 15, 2014 at 7:41 am)Michael Wrote:(August 15, 2014 at 7:28 am)Brakeman Wrote: No, you changed yourself, your prayer is merely your talking to yourself.
The fact is there was/is change. The mechanism behind that change is certainly debatable. Sometimes what is most needed, either for ourselves or for the benefit of others, is change within us, and prayer can be one powerful approach to that, as many of us have experienced.
Well, sure, you can change yourself through prayer, meditation, self reflection ... whatever you want to call it.
No deity needed.
No deity involved.