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Is art subjective?
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RE: Is art subjective?
(August 16, 2014 at 3:00 pm)Blackout Wrote: Baqal three questions:
This is gonna be fun.

Quote:1 - If there is a set of beauty that is cherished by most people in a determined society, the kind of beauty almost no one will call ugly, how do we call it? It's not objective as you put it, but it can't be subjective either.
It is subjective and acknowledged by the majority. See what I said previously.

Quote:2 - What if I argued that, unlike what you are saying, the 1% of people who disagree with the set of beauty, and for that matter, people from other cultures (many of them underdeveloped by the way) have a fully corrupt and idiotic sense of beauty and appreciation?
You would be kind of an asshole.

Quote:3 - Let's say we did a quiz to women showing pictures of several men and asking which one is more attractive... Obviously one of them would win, specially if we put, let's say, a Brad Pitt with an average Joe... Do you think this happens by chance, or that, it's just a biological preference that our bodies and minds are programmed to have? Why do you think men tend to like women with large hips? Because they give the image of being more able to have kids, it's scientifically possible to detect a beauty preference in people. If we don't want to call it objective, then we must find another word for it, but it's not subjective since most people won't be able to conceive a possible disagreement with the proposition.
You did it again. Most people in this world also agree that there is a magical creator deity up in the sky. Do you agree with that? It's the majority!

Quote:By the way, arguing against your last point, that only proves that after all societies become developed the western set of beauty will be predominant worldwide. If people like overweight because it's a sign of health that's reasonable in a poor country, but how come no one in the west likes that as a general rule? We could bring up the fat is beautiful BS, but we all know it's unhealthy. And yes I can insult overweight people because I was once almost obese.
Unhealthy does not mean not beautiful. The undeveloped countries that are westernizing are likely to adopt the western standard of beauty.
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Is art subjective? - by LivingNumbers - August 16, 2014 at 3:46 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Mudhammam - August 16, 2014 at 3:54 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Tobie - August 16, 2014 at 4:37 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Anomalocaris - August 16, 2014 at 10:03 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Zidneya - August 16, 2014 at 4:44 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 8:44 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Baqal - August 16, 2014 at 9:18 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by downbeatplumb - August 16, 2014 at 9:21 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Anomalocaris - August 16, 2014 at 10:04 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by bennyboy - August 16, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by bennyboy - August 16, 2014 at 9:13 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Michael - August 16, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Baqal - August 16, 2014 at 10:04 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Baqal - August 16, 2014 at 10:23 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 10:26 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Baqal - August 16, 2014 at 10:34 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 10:37 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by bennyboy - August 16, 2014 at 10:39 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by bennyboy - August 17, 2014 at 1:29 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by vorlon13 - August 16, 2014 at 10:00 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by vorlon13 - August 16, 2014 at 10:04 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Baqal - August 16, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 10:58 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Baqal - August 16, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Is art subjective? - by Baqal - August 16, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Is art subjective? - by Baqal - August 16, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Is art subjective? - by Dystopia - August 16, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Is art subjective? - by Baqal - August 16, 2014 at 3:55 pm
RE: Is art subjective? - by stonedape - August 17, 2014 at 1:10 am
RE: Is art subjective? - by Whateverist - August 17, 2014 at 1:25 am

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