(June 3, 2010 at 12:42 am)tackattack Wrote: I'm sure the jews would disagree with you on that Fr0d0, theocracies and ecclesiocracies are outdated but they were a intended as a definite type of government ( Israel, papacy, Byzantine empire I believe, etc). Religion I believe was misused in this way for the gain of control and power, which is the goals of some religions. I agree that religion should have no place in modern governments.
@paintpooper- We still wouldn't be on the same page with "Something created the big bang, and all matter came from somewhere. UNLESS that is "just how it is". ". as a theist I'd believe in the former and as an atheist you'd be on the latter. We'd have no way of determining which is the null characteristic of the universe. I have a lot of respect for atheism, they assume everything starts out as null or nothing and that's very effective when gauging materialistic things.
And I see no problem on if we have different views on that. That is not the big problem with religion. Ill say the big bang "just was" you say "something created it" I don't think we will ever know which is the truth or not, or that is really matters, but those ideals are our own and causes no rift.
I have a problem with fundie radicals, and Christians trying to push their religion on other people, if we can get past all the Adam and Eve, Muhammad, Joesph Smith, stuff then atheism and theism are not all that different we are both trying to find out what created our universe, but we each have a different preconceived notion, or we both have different hypothesis, we just need to find ways to test those, but I don't think we should hold our breath on that ever happening.
God hates gays... God is white..God hates blacks things like that sicken me and have no place in a civilized society.
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