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What if we're all wrong though?
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RE: What if we're all wrong though?
(June 3, 2010 at 8:54 pm)tackattack Wrote: @Thor - that's adificult question. I would say God allows the opportunity for all those things to happen and directs a causal chain. Can and has he healed someone where science couldn't? yes. Can he save people for dying? I suppose. Does he bring people together? yes. I would have to say yes I believe he can do those specific things. If you're asking if I believe in spontaneous miracles like a worldwide flood or dividing a river to walk across it, no I don't think God does those miracles. He might have in the past but no longer.

Well, if you believe he does (and has) healed people, saved people from dying, etc... then obviously he has the ability to step in if he so desires. In which case, I would ask why he allows hurricanes to devestate communities (he could make the hurricane harmless if he wanted)? I would ask why he does nothing and allows children to suffer and die with cancer (or any other malady)? I would ask why he allows babies to be born with horrible birth defects? Why does he do nothing while an earthquake destroys a city and kills thousands?

If your deity is capable of saving a child's life and does nothing, I would argue that your deity is pretty horrible. After all, what would you think of a parent who did nothing and watched their child die when they could have prevented it?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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