RE: authoritarian/libertarian-left/right spectrum test
August 23, 2014 at 7:28 pm
(This post was last modified: August 23, 2014 at 7:30 pm by Dystopia.)
(August 23, 2014 at 4:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote:I don't know if labeling myself as a libertarian is accurate, and even if it is, I'm definitely not the type of american libertarian - I agree that the free market isn't factually free - And I think a REAL free market where everyone gets opportunities is something worth fighting for, at least regarding the private sector. That's what capitalism should be about - Not exploitation of the poor - But I'm afraid everything that ends in 'ism' will sooner or later be used by corrupt people to fuck everything up when the original idea was not bad at all. When I say I am a free market apologetic, I'm referring to the original theoretic concept of a true free market, not to the practical result and what happens in real life.Quote:It's not a free market if the market removes freedom.
Exactly my point. The moment the business criminal assholes start to try to manipulate a market it is no longer free. The only factors which served to restrain them were unions and government and both have been short-circuited by the money which flows into politics.
The "free market" is an illusion...just like fucking 'god.'
(August 23, 2014 at 5:30 pm)stonedape Wrote:Quote:The "free market" is an illusion...just like fucking 'god.Just like money and property and nations and cultures. God or lack there of is just one illusion, everybody can agree to disagree about. That other shit isn't up for discussion.
Not sure about that - You see, all of those things are man created/made, but nations, property, cultures and money have a practical utility in our lives, god doesn't have - God is not necessary - Money is (for now, I haven't found a better way to trade merchandises without using currency), nations are factually existent (in fact if it's an illusion, try crossing a border without a passport), property is legally provided and culture is an inherent social trait that is highly prevalent. I don't think any of those things are literally illusions, they are just man made either from ideas or spontaneity to serve a specific purpose
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you