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One thing I find encouraging on here!
RE: One thing I find encouraging on here!
(August 27, 2014 at 5:40 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: The Twilight characters do not exist and yet we can hate them as the characters they represent. It is common practice to love or hate fictional characters. Loving or hating them does not allude to their existence in reality, however, because the average reasonable individual knows how to differentiate between reality and fiction.

What is the name for the philosophical position that the Twilight characters do not exist? Where are the hundreds of books defending this position and the hatred for these characters? Where are the conventions concerning their non-existence? Where are the online communities? Where are the documentaries ridiculing them? Atheists’ behavior indicates that they know there is an existential difference between God and Edward.

(August 27, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Baqal Wrote: Or...
"I do not believe that God exists... and if He would exist, I'd hate Him".
So, yeah. This is a conditional example.

Nobody expresses it as such though. “If God Existed, He’d Not Be Great” By Christopher Hitchens. I missed that one.

(August 27, 2014 at 5:43 pm)Tobie Wrote: 1) Atheists as a whole do not claim to "know" god doesn't exist. A subset do, but the majority (at least on here) don't.

Then they’d be agnostics, not atheists.

Quote: 2) I, an atheist, do not harbour any hate for any god. Counterexample disproves your claim.

So you claim, color me skeptical.

Quote: Sounds like you are mixing up "hating god" and hating the idea of a god (in the examples you wrote, the judeo-christian god) - in the Dawkins quote, he says "most unpleasant character in all of fiction".

…and yet he does not write an entire book dedicated to any other fictional character. That’s the point, what he says he believes does not conform to his behavior. If I tell you that I believe climate change is going to cause Florida to be submerged under water and then I buy a beach front house in Florida you’re going to question whether I really believe what I claim to believe.

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Prove they don't exist.

Easy.

P1 Only Yahweh Exists
P2 [Insert other god’s name] is not Yahweh
C. Therefore, [insert other god’s name] does not exist.


(August 27, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Losty Wrote: Lol. Evidence to prove that I do not hate God?
I am myself. I know how I feel. What kind of evidence should I provide? 0.o

Behavior that is consistent with your claimed believes would go a long ways.

(August 27, 2014 at 5:52 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Oh good! Stat's back! We were starting to run low on straw men. Whew!

Gotta hold you all accountable. Tongue
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One thing I find encouraging on here! - by vodkafan - July 26, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Nine - July 26, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Dystopia - July 26, 2014 at 10:49 am
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RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Ravenshire - August 19, 2014 at 9:23 pm
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RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Simon Moon - August 27, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Losty - August 27, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Losty - July 26, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Nine - July 26, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Dystopia - July 26, 2014 at 11:06 am
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RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Losty - August 27, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: One thing I find encouraging on here! - by Tobie - August 27, 2014 at 6:34 pm
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