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RE: On naturalism and consciousness

August 28, 2014 at 1:10 am

(August 28, 2014 at 12:52 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(August 28, 2014 at 12:38 am)Surgenator Wrote: Yeap, chemicals interacting in my brain.
I don't think you understand what "subjective" means.

I assure you I do. It doesn't change that it's still chemicals interacting in my brain.

Quote:Anyway, what makes you think that all the things we know about mind are incompatible with idealism? I've already said that in an idealistic universe, the human mind is mediated by the brain-- and that the brain and everything else is reducible only to concepts.

I'm not saying the mind is incompatible with idealism. I'm saying idealism isn't internally inconsistent. Hense, it's wrong.

Techniqually I'm saying other things as well, but lets stick with internally inconsistent for now.

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