The Bible and its fallacies and contradictions

[WingedFoe]

I'm sure that's plenty to stir up a conversation.

Not really. There's no way to refute your points if we don't know the specifics. You say "this one time, God answered my prayer and helped out my friend, therefore prayer works." And all I'm left with to counter is... "did not."

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Godschild said

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WingedFoe that was some vid entertaining to say the most. That's not even close to reality God is not a simpleton He can use more than "yes, no and wait" to answer prayer as a matter of fact I can not remember a time when God gave me one word answers. If people believe that God is around just to answer their selfish prayers then they are looking for a god that does not exist. Gods work with us is more important than meeting our selfish needs. He sacrificed much for us when Christ gave His life on the cross so where do we get the idea that God owes us anything other than what He's already done. You have no concept of what God is, what He's about or what He desires for us and from us. He has given us freewill and all you can see is selfish ways for people to use it, it's no wonder you can not understand who God is. To use a milk jug to make small judgements of a omniscient God is really childish. There's also this that milk jug has an expiration date on it, God is eternal, everlasting, forever get the picture.

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The video was meant to show that prayers can be left unanswered, can be answered immediately, or can be answered long after the prayer was sent. It doesn't matter whether you substitute the video's example of "give me money" with "give money to the poor" or "give me guidance so that I may carry out your will, Lord," the same three possibilities exist. Similarly, it doesn't matter whether you're praying to God, Allah, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or a jug of milk; anything that you give a voice will have those options. And the believer wins no matter what, because they can choose whichever of those three rationalizations that is most appropriate to the situation.

So let's say you pray for "guidance." Immediately, you see a commercial pop on the television saying to donate to a certain charity and, thinking this is a sign from God, you donate. Another possibility is that nothing remarkable happens for the next three days, but then you get an email from your friend telling you to check out a church's website. You go to the website and the church's ideals match greatly with your own, you think back three days ago to when you prayed for "guidance," and believe God has finally answered your prayer... you join the church. The third possibility of the prayer going unanswered, here, is unlikely because really anything can be interpreted as "guidance." In more specific prayers, like "please God make WingedFoe a believer," you could rationalize that prayer gong unanswered by saying "WingedFoe was simply 'blind,'" or "WingedFoe exercised his 'free will.'"

The point is that there are a million rationalizations one can make for a prayer being answered, and a million more for a prayer going unanswered. Those same rationalizations work equally for non-existent beings as they do for supposedly existent (yet invisible) beings.