RE: What if we're all wrong though?
June 7, 2010 at 1:56 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2010 at 2:31 pm by Purple Rabbit.)
(June 7, 2010 at 1:26 am)tackattack Wrote: @PR- please I do welcome the comments, as always, and I appreciate the compliment.A "clock has gears" statement is a definition of the type "entity of type x necessarily contains parts of type y but not necessarily only parts of type y", and adds meaning by defining what entities are of type x, by what characteristic type of part they can be recognized as such and what is contained in what. "God is love" is an identity statement that only switches labels, which fails to add meaning. The fact that this type of definition cannot be seen as adding information to the concept to be defined is usually seen as a sign for non-literal or metaphorical interpretation. As such it fails to have any value in a logical evaluation notwithstanding the fact that love as an observable emotional commitment in the real world between two or more sentient beings, really exists. In short, though love indeed exists in the real world the parasitic relabeling trick does not give rise to a supernatural sentient being that rules the universe.
My point was as a usefull descriptor of the nature of something it would necessarily need a noun, not a humanistic adjective. For instance "a Clock has gears" or a "clock tells time" as opposed to "the clock is small" or "the clock is extravagant". Love is not an unintelligible concept, nor do I use it to merely lend depth to my concept of God, I read it in a book somewhere . In this instance it's not the imperfect love we experience with our wives (not to belittle that love of course). God's Love gives and sacrifices unconditionally expecting nothing in return. It's patient, kind, does not boast, etc.. I don't think I need to quote it all for anyone. It's also for an eternity and despite the fact people hate him and deny him. It's all also speculation, but it's the basis of the Christian Faith.
(June 7, 2010 at 1:26 am)tackattack Wrote: As to ripping out the OT, I use it for lots of things. I find lots of religious texts useful in teaching. I wish the KJV included the apocrapha. I'm not going to destroy something because I find it less relevant to the main point.How people somehow manage to euphemize from "genocidal" to "less relevant" in two sentences is what keeps amazing me. Rumour has it that metaphysical belief induces the shutting down of the frontal lobes, the place where critical thinking faculties reside.
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Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0