RE: On naturalism and consciousness
August 30, 2014 at 10:31 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2014 at 10:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Are you disagreeing with my statement? Does beach sand possess "mind"? How about a spool of thread? Pencils? Under a "traditional" theory of mind, or under a computational theory, none of these things would possess "mind". There's really no difference in this regard. That's all I'm trying to explain.
With regards to observation - there's that custom box you've built, eh? If observation can't help us we're in deep shit - as that means that logic and reason can't help us either (we're quickly running out of tools, aren't we). It's a permanent unknown the way you have conceived of it. A moot point. Nothing about considering mind to -be- it's physical correlates invalidates observation...cmon man. I appreciate the dramatic flair - but that's a bit much...but just to be a pain in the as...so what if it did? Whats the worst that could happen, it would be unknowable? No problem, it already is- according to you.
Meh, we -do- have known limits, and probably unknown ones as well (I wouldn't know
) I'm just not comfortable declaring this to be one by fiat.
(if you'd like to explain that position, about mind and correlates invalidating observation, btw, I'd love to see how you got from a to b on that one, despite not being able to sign onboard)
With regards to observation - there's that custom box you've built, eh? If observation can't help us we're in deep shit - as that means that logic and reason can't help us either (we're quickly running out of tools, aren't we). It's a permanent unknown the way you have conceived of it. A moot point. Nothing about considering mind to -be- it's physical correlates invalidates observation...cmon man. I appreciate the dramatic flair - but that's a bit much...but just to be a pain in the as...so what if it did? Whats the worst that could happen, it would be unknowable? No problem, it already is- according to you.
Meh, we -do- have known limits, and probably unknown ones as well (I wouldn't know
) I'm just not comfortable declaring this to be one by fiat.(if you'd like to explain that position, about mind and correlates invalidating observation, btw, I'd love to see how you got from a to b on that one, despite not being able to sign onboard)
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