(August 31, 2014 at 11:26 am)Drich Wrote:(August 31, 2014 at 11:20 am)Tobie Wrote: It's still the same god, same theology, same people. The god depicted in the bible is willing to destroy all humans because he regretted making us. I don't recall anything in the NT saying "ignore all the bits of the OT where god wants to kill all of us, or when he slaughters innocents".
I guess your not familiar with the message of the gospels then?
You know the bit where is says:" fore God so loved the world that He gave his only son, that who so ever shall believe in Him, shall not perish but have ever lasting life?"
That one verse creates a new paradigm therefore a completely new religion. What links us to the destruction of the OT is in the word parish. To perish is to feel the wrath of God if belief in His son is not secured. To which I have no issue with that. Because simply put i do not want to spend eternity with everyone who has ever lived. Some of people simply need to 'perish.'
How will you get yourself into heaven? On your own merit or via a scapegoat?
Revisit substitutionary atonement or vicarious redemption and scapegoating with me just to refresh your memory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNtBkOXItqw
I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty. Scapegoating IOW.
In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning as we all know that it is immoral to kill the innocent. God knows this yet Christians do not seem to. You do. Right?
Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a son just to prove it's benevolence. When you die, Satan will ask you; how was your ticket to heaven purchased? With innocent blood?
If and when you say yes, you become his.
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The other option in scriptures, a moral one, is shown here. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Scriptures indicate that God prefers repentance to sacrifice and as God’s will is supreme and cannot be thwarted, this will come to pass.
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It is a special distorted Christian view of love that sees, --- as the greatest act of love possible, --- their God condemning them, and then turning and demanding his son’s deaths and thus corrupting God's perfect justice. A bribe set by God as judge himself for himself. This is of course ridiculous.
Christians have an insane view of love, IMO.
Would you express your love for humanity or those you love by having your own child needlessly murdered?
Or if convinced that a sacrifice was somehow good, would you have the moral fortitude to step up yourself to that cross instead of sending your child?
Your cowardly God did not.
Regards
DL
