(August 31, 2014 at 12:46 pm)Greatest I am Wrote:(August 31, 2014 at 12:37 pm)Natachan Wrote: No. You still set up a king in Jesus, God, or whatever. You set up a being to whom you are forever in subservience. You still are considered lesser than another. THIS is the problem.
I recall a fictional kingdom where the leaders rise through great deeds. They work hard, and their deeds gain them prestige. They then expect those who have less prestige to bow, scrape, and to even refrain from looking them in the eyes. This is the problem. While they might be respected, they demand treatment that lessens those who have not achieved. They insist that they are a different race than those others.
My problem is the idea of some demanding veneration. I give no veneration. I give no worship. I give respect where it is earned.
You set up a being to whom you are forever in subservience.
I said no such thing and in fact said elect as in a democracy and there is nothing forever about that leader.
You missed my point though. Without those leaders, you have anarchy and chaos.
You also missed where we are to seek the ideal leader perpetually.
Perhaps it is my poor delivery.
Regards
DL
Can you depose God for bad behavior? Are you equal? Or is God one who demands subservience? At all?
If you believe either of these things then you are a far cry from what I understand as Christianity.