(August 31, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Losty Wrote: I don't believe that Hitler was predestined to want to kill all the Jews in the first place. I like where you're going with this, but I would take it even farther by changing the circumstances of his life so he would end up a well rounded individual who hadn't experienced whatever things made him turn out to be a murderous psycho.
Oh yeah, I don't buy predestination either, I was just trying to work with the least number of alterations to history possible, knowing that the more I tried to add, the easier it would be for the theists to cry "free will!" The truth is, you don't have to change anyone; every bad person on earth could be as bad as they are right now, but their free will does not ensure them success in their endeavors.
But imagine if you could change people. With Hitler specifically, imagine if he'd succeeded at art school. Imagine if he'd been great at art (inspiration and artistic talent are often characterized as gifts from god. Funny how that kind of interference is never brought up in free will discussions.

Imagine how easy it would have been, for god. Surely the benefits would have outweighed having to (positively) interfere with someone's free will, if that's what you could call that at all?
Didn't happen though. And interestingly, look at the difference in approaches: in Drich's method, he zoomed straight to killing babies. In our atheist method, our morally bankrupt sinful method, we sought to improve countless lives in a non intrusive way. What does that say about adherence to this god's teachings?

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