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What if we're all wrong though?
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RE: What if we're all wrong though?
I have admitted over and over that I believe my God is the creator of everything, good and Bad. God created the devil and uses him as he sees fit, it's in the Bible. He's created the laws of physics, minerals and ores necessary for the nuclear bomb. He's created the trees that were cut down and used as spears to kill the innocent. Do yoou deny the culpability of mankind? Do yoou deny the positive things attributed to him? I'm not getting your question. Actually, how would you create suffering? Let's say I stab some random person. Would it be more correct to say I stabbed a man, or I created that man's suffering? If we're talking about intellectual consent of consequences then I would say yes he does create instances that cause suffering. I rely on my Faith and his track record with me as a foundation for my perceptions of his intentions and can only assume any suffering in the short will pay in the long. How does that in any way equate to 50% omnipresent. Omnibenevolent I understand, I don't feel he is completely all loving. Love is something you must accept before it can be felt, therefore those who haven't accepted his Love don't see him as benvolent, ergo impossible to be omnibenevolent. I think a better term would be selectively omnibenevolent or omnibenevolent based on acceptance. He can't force you to love him so it would be impossible to be omnibenevolent with the world as we see it today, IMO.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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