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Science, faith, and theists
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RE: Science, faith, and theists
(September 1, 2014 at 2:24 am)Michael Wrote: Natachan

I too am a scientist. I have a Ph.D. in pharmacology (I specialised in intracellular messenger systems, especialy phosphoinositides), and 25 years post-doc work in Pharma, and now back into academia working on what is broadly called 'translational science' or 'evidence-based medicine'.

Yes, science and faith are different. But I love them both, and both play a role in my life (as do other perspectives on life, such as an amateur interest in history).

I hope you continue to get as much enjoyment out of science as I have had, and continue to have.

It certainly is not impossible for a theist to be a scientist, but I do find it absurd to say they are separate but equal. That is mentally compartmentalizing issues in order to avoid scrutiny to what you have no evidence for. You don't dare bring your belief into a lab because you know damn well you don't even have anymore a starting point than a theologian does "poof, god did it".

"God the Failed Hypothesis" and "The New Atheism" by Victor Stenger dispels the myth that science has nothing to say about god claims. And on top of that he rightfully criticizes the idea that religion and science can co exist.

No they cannot co exist. You start mixing god with science science destroys it as a concept, and that is why you try to separate them to justify keeping both of them at the same time.

There is no Allah based gravity.
There is no Vishnu based entropy.
There is no Yahweh based DNA.
There is no Thor based lightening.
There is no Poseidon based hurricane.
There is no magic baby birth gynecology.

Those "god theories" do not exist in science.

You can love your god claim all you want, but that is you and your own anthropomorphic desire. It is YOU projecting human qualities in want of a super hero in order to ignore your own finite existence.

Stephen Hawkins, "A god is not required".

Humans are so busy trying to insisting that a magic cognition with superpowers started everything they never bother to consider that a cognition is not required. I find it childish knowing the size of the universe and how tiny we are in it that "all this" was put here for us and we are somehow special. What a load of crap. It is our species narcissism that creates fictional sky heros. Hardly humble. It is understandable to have that desire to live on. But it is childish to insist on kaleidoscope thinking once you have telescopes.
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Science, faith, and theists - by Natachan - August 31, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 1, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 7:29 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 7:50 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 7:53 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 7:58 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Ben Davis - September 4, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Ben Davis - September 4, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Minimalist - September 5, 2014 at 2:26 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Tonus - September 4, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Minimalist - September 1, 2014 at 2:29 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Natachan - September 3, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Surgenator - September 3, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 3:44 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Diablo - September 3, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 3, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 4, 2014 at 4:39 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 4, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 7:10 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 4, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 7:58 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 10:37 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Little lunch - September 4, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Diablo - September 4, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Diablo - September 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Diablo - September 4, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Ben Davis - September 5, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by FreeTony - September 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 4, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 1:26 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 5, 2014 at 7:42 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 5, 2014 at 8:41 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 5, 2014 at 9:49 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 5, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 5, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Cato - September 5, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Dawsonite - September 5, 2014 at 3:14 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Tonus - September 5, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by The Grand Nudger - September 5, 2014 at 3:54 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by naimless - September 5, 2014 at 4:26 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 9:12 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Ben Davis - September 5, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Tonus - September 5, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Simon Moon - September 5, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Tonus - September 5, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Michael - September 5, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Science, faith, and theists - by Simon Moon - September 5, 2014 at 1:35 pm

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