RE: Why knocking is so important.
September 4, 2014 at 11:30 am
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2014 at 11:37 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 2, 2014 at 8:06 pm)Tonus Wrote: "Because it works" is his matter-of-fact reply. More than just that, it works in a repeatable and reliable fashion. My 'faith in science' is rewarded every time I turn on an electronic device. Or get into my car and drive somewhere. Or board a plane and take a flight. Or check my watch. Or any number of things that we take advantage of every day without ever having to understand the underlying concepts.I doubt that it requires much faith at all when you experience it working. An inference could be drawn to religion here -
Quote:Faith in religion, on the other hand, is nowhere near as repeatable or reliable. The results are varied, from nothing at all to miraculous healing of deadly diseases or being saved from near-impossible odds. Without the ability to independently verify any of those accounts, even religious people snipe at one another.Yep, science works regardless, faith might only work for the faithful - at which point how much faith is required? I say "might" - because it;s difficult to establish that it actually -is- working...even (and perhaps especially) amongst the faithful.
-For Drich-
Hmn, something very different seems to be happening between these two sets - wonder why that is? The whole point of such a use of the concept is baffling to me. "You're doing the same thing" - Establishing that one's self and ones process is identical to another's whilst simultaneously arguing or implying that they are incorrect? I'm not sure you'd even need a partner in a debate like that, sounds like a solo show. Every criticism of their "faith" holds equally true as a criticism of your own. You'd almost have to zip it to avoid scuttling your own ship.
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