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What if we're all wrong though?
RE: What if we're all wrong though?
(June 9, 2010 at 7:51 am)tackattack Wrote: @SN- In post 94 you quoted 2 questions I asked and didn't answer either of them, nor haven't in the myriad of pages of our conversations, they're yes or no questions or multiple choice. Here they are again, plus the one you breezed over (probably because I forgot teh ? , my bad).
a-does the concept of the Christian God from the Bible have only amoral character traits?
I suppose all the 'begat' chapters are amoral, in that they are neither moral nor immoral, but for the rest? There are a very few minor good moral traits, such as a reference to the rule taken from other people's philosophies (the empathy one - do unto others...), but the majority of god's traits are highly immoral from a human perspective. Those traits have caused, and continue to cause, a lot of harm, misery, pain and suffering, both mental and physical. They are not at all good guides for human peace and happiness.

Quote:b-Do you deny the culpability of man to use God's creations for evil or do you blame God for the actions of evil?
Evil is an opinion, not an actual fixed entity. I don't believe in gods, so I don't blame any for evil. If the abrahamic god were real though, I would think he was a very immoral, evil creep, and I like to point out to believers why I think their main bible book character is such an evil creep. I blame humans individually, or sometimes as groups (such as those claiming to be following god-commands), for certain preventable or unnecessary acts that are cruel, malicious, etc. Evil is an opinion word for me, just like cruel and malicious are, and I often use them almost interchangeably. Evil is my opinion about a decision that another human makes when I think they should know full well that they are intentionally, and unnecessarily, harming others and not stopping themselves from doing it. I use the word as an adjective usually, but when I use it as a noun, I just mean a bunch of evil things collectively, such as 'the bible is one big cesspool of evil'.

Quote:c-How does either of the above equate to 50% omnipresent regardless of the answer?
I was just throwing a number out there of half and half to avoid the possible side issue of comparing how much good vs evil there is in the world. I don't think either exists as a measurable thing. They are emotion based opinions and can easily fluctuate all the time as to how much of either you feel is in your life/world. Also, the same act/behaviour/situation is often seen extremely differently between different people as to where it is on the good vs evil scale.
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...
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What if we're all wrong though? - by mem - June 1, 2010 at 8:26 am
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