RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
September 6, 2014 at 1:33 am
(This post was last modified: September 6, 2014 at 1:37 am by snowtracks.)
(August 31, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Chuck Wrote:the oldest cave art I'm familiar is some 35 tya in Europe which is about the time Neanderthals went extinct. but whatever, they might have been capable of some art. wouldn't be surprising if a monkey could execute some crude drawings. after all, birds use tools..(August 31, 2014 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: when hss came on the scene, advanced human culture appeared suddenly. the technology and culture displayed indicated that they were significantly superior to hominids who possessed some semblance of culture and relatively simplistic technology such as the hand axe which was basically unchanged for 2 million years( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_axe#Hi...stribution). the hss culture shows a quantum leap in cognitive capabilities (including symbolic thought), craftsmanship, inventiveness, and an artistic flair that the grunt brain hominid's didn't. this was the 'big bang' of human culture. from a Christian perspective, this was the result of a new type of creature (hss) that is endowed with a spirit, one made in God's image. neanderthals and other homo sapiens were simply bipedal primates, possessed limited intelligence with some type of culture but animals nevertheless. only hss possess a spirit and hence are held accountable for morality; the flood was a judgment against immorality.
hominids were spread out but not around the world. whereas, hss were confined to the local flood area.
You do realize recent re-dating of many Paleolithic cave art show some likely predated the arrival of HSS, and therefore must have been drawn by Neanderthals, right? You are also aware there is some evidence the oldest musical instruments in the world yet discovered was purposely made bone flute made before the arrival of HSS?
So apparently soulless Neanderthals without spirit drew pictures and made music because they didn't have symbolic thinking and made no cultural advances.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/i...sing+tools also, could be neanderthals came upon previously occupied human caves.
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think to might be referring to Neanderthal flute which is a femur with four holes on one side. that particular item if memory serves, an analysis stated the holes appear to have been caused by a carnivore.
(August 31, 2014 at 9:06 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Snowy, how long ago do you think the flood happened? and how long ago do you think there were other bipedal hominids sharing the planet with humans?humans perhaps started 80 - 50 tya, neanderthals (closest in appearance to modern humans (hss)) lived something like between 200 - 35 tya. Noah's flood, est. 40 - 35 tya.
term 'transitional intermediate' is oftentimes used by evolutionist as the entire collection of specimens between end points. under this definition, hominids existing between an ape like creatures that existed roughly 6 mya to hss like neanderthals are classified under that term - the hope is that future discovery will provide the necessary scientific evidence; that definition is not nearly stringent enough to move evolution from a theory to fact.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.