(September 7, 2014 at 12:16 am)orangebox21 Wrote:(September 5, 2014 at 4:57 pm)Losty Wrote: "Here you asserted that a wife choosing to not submit to her husband makes her just as 'good' as a wife choosing to submit to her husband. That is what prompted me to ask: If we assume that disobedience to God's word is bad, how can a person choosing to follow God's word be just as 'good' as a person choosing to break it? Am I missing something?"Gotcha. The reason I was 'missing this' is due to the context of our conversation. I had the impression that for the sake of argument you were assuming God exists and that the Bible is His word. Or else who would have been commanding that wives submit to their husbands? I run into these 'context shifts' often when speaking with atheists. In order to have a logical conversation, if we assume for the sake of argument that God exists, then while I know that an atheist doesn't start believing in God, the response of 'I don't believe in God' is irrelevant and illogical within the framework of the conversation. So, that's my mistake for assuming you had assumed the existence of God for the sake of our conversation.
What you seem to be missing is that I am an atheist. I don't even believe in god. I make no assumption that anyone should be obedient to the bible or the god in it that I don't believe in.
Why would I make such a ridiculous assumption? I don't understand. How can you miss this?
I'll retract my previous line of inquiry and instead ask a question. You've asserted that a wife who does not submit to her husband is just as 'good' as one who does. How do you know this is true?
Makes sense. I guess the thing for me is, even if I were assuming the existence of god, I would not believe that obeying him is good or disobeying him is bad.
Anyways, I think I was wrong in saying that a wife who chooses not to submit is as good as a wife who submits.
I think probably a better way to express how I feel is to say that whether or not a woman chooses to be submissive to her husband has no bearing on whether or not she is/can be a good person.
