(September 8, 2014 at 2:13 pm)naimless Wrote:(September 8, 2014 at 1:57 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (removing all the other stuff)
Nno, you've still got it wrong. Someone not believing in a deity isn't a claim, it's literally the opposite, it's simply that they don't accept the claims about the deity. There is no claim being made.
If you look at a species such as monkeys objectively and see that the majority of monkeys experience eating bananas and then a minority of monkeys don't experience eating bananas it is an extraordinary claim to say that the majority of monkeys do not experience eating bananas.
Similarly if you look at humans objectively, it is an extraordinary claim to say that the majority of humans don't experience some form of deity.
It does not matter if I subjectively experience bananas or deities, or not. The majority of monkeys and humans experience them, respectively. Therefore a claim to have found god for a human is not that extraordinary, objectively speaking. It is like a monkey claiming to have found a banana.
Whether I think the monkey has actually found a banana, or if the banana exists or not, is not relevant.
Where you're wrong is that the majority of people CLAIM to have experiences with a deity, but that claim should not be taken at face value.
Luke: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.