Pippy, you may not care about taking away the rights of other gays, but other people do, and that's what the gay rights movement is about. There are a lot of injustices to gay people in this world today, politically and personally. Here is a study that delves into the harassment and discrimination of gay men. If you think gay people aren't treated poorly, you're living under a rock.
Your anecdote does nothing to change this fact. If what you say is true, this guy is an ass. But he doesn't represent all gay people. I don't think all gay people are perfect people, they are just that, people. And people can be jackasses. I don't know what it's like in Canada, but I damn well know what it's like in the US, were there's a lot of anti-gay rhetoric.
And for the last final fucking time, I do not support hate crime legislation at all.
Anyway, if you can accept that being gay is natural, why do you then insist it's a choice? Yes, I think heterosexuality and homosexuality are of equal value. I ask for nothing more than for them to be recognized as such. I don't want special treatment for gays, I want equal. Nothing more.
If you want to be grossed out by gay people, I can't stop you. I think it's a childish way of thinking, but to each their own. The fact remains that gay people are stereotyped, discriminated against, and denied civil rights based on being gay. I don't think the injustices done to gay people are more important than the injustices done to any other minority group or individual person. It's comparing apples and oranges when you try to compare different types of discrimination, and you shouldn't. There may be similarities, but it's still not the same.
You'd think I was asking for the sun not to come up tomorrow to ask for gays to be considered just people, and not some devious person trying to trample on the straight man. I thought this thread was about clearing up the stereotypes about gays from the horse's mouth? I'm gay, I know plenty of gay people, I'm active in the gay community. I'm doing my best to clear up the misconceptions, if you don't want to listen, I can't stop that. But as I said before, there are a lot of misconceptions based on the phenomena of social privilege. As terrible as some things you may have experienced in your own life, your plight doesn't erase the fact that gays are systematically mistreated by society.
Your anecdote does nothing to change this fact. If what you say is true, this guy is an ass. But he doesn't represent all gay people. I don't think all gay people are perfect people, they are just that, people. And people can be jackasses. I don't know what it's like in Canada, but I damn well know what it's like in the US, were there's a lot of anti-gay rhetoric.
And for the last final fucking time, I do not support hate crime legislation at all.
Anyway, if you can accept that being gay is natural, why do you then insist it's a choice? Yes, I think heterosexuality and homosexuality are of equal value. I ask for nothing more than for them to be recognized as such. I don't want special treatment for gays, I want equal. Nothing more.
If you want to be grossed out by gay people, I can't stop you. I think it's a childish way of thinking, but to each their own. The fact remains that gay people are stereotyped, discriminated against, and denied civil rights based on being gay. I don't think the injustices done to gay people are more important than the injustices done to any other minority group or individual person. It's comparing apples and oranges when you try to compare different types of discrimination, and you shouldn't. There may be similarities, but it's still not the same.
You'd think I was asking for the sun not to come up tomorrow to ask for gays to be considered just people, and not some devious person trying to trample on the straight man. I thought this thread was about clearing up the stereotypes about gays from the horse's mouth? I'm gay, I know plenty of gay people, I'm active in the gay community. I'm doing my best to clear up the misconceptions, if you don't want to listen, I can't stop that. But as I said before, there are a lot of misconceptions based on the phenomena of social privilege. As terrible as some things you may have experienced in your own life, your plight doesn't erase the fact that gays are systematically mistreated by society.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin
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