Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

[Greatest I am]

Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

Romans 5:12. Sin entered the world through one man [Adam]. Not exempt. His punishment:

17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

Being discussed here

I think that Adam, not being deceived, was more culpable than Eve.

By what authority are you making that claim?

Why then did God favor the guiltiest, Adam, with, --- he shall rule over you?

Who was 'guiltiest' is not the determining factor. Read up on federal headship.

Men rule over women? Why when men were not deceived but disobeyed?

Not rule, federal headship.

What was the transgression, --- if not a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom and shun immortality of the flesh, --- even if that were possible, --- and why was Adan not punished as hard as Eve when he was clearly more guilty?

Regards
DL

Are you claiming that it was a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom over God's word?

orangebox21

“Romans 5:12. Sin entered the world through one man [Adam]. Not exempt. His punishment:”

Does this quote hold more or less power than yours and why?

Ecclesiasticus Chapter 25; 24 Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die.

Also, I did not say that Adam was not punished, he was, but not nearly as badly as Eve who he gained dominion over while she basically became his slave.

I note your “Not rule, federal headship.” be low and your semantics does not change the facts that Eve was to forever be subordinate to Adam.

She therefore, along with the other punishments, bore more punishment than Adam while he bore more of the transgression.
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Greatest I am Wrote:
I think that Adam, not being deceived, was more culpable than Eve.

Your reply.
“By what authority are you making that claim?”

Why would I need anyone’s authority to opine on scriptures?
Do you go running for authority before you opined on this O.P.?

Who was it?

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“Who was 'guiltiest' is not the determining factor.”

Interesting. What other factor would you use to determine a sentence if not the guiltiest get the most severe sentence?

Show where and why you would punish more harshly the less guilty pleas.

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“Are you claiming that it was a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom over God's word?”

Absolutely.

God’s WORD and almost all God can know is in the tree of knowledge. They chose his WORD and that is why God said they became as Gods.

Tell us what is wrong with becoming like God when scriptures tell us to do just that.

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Do you think A & E should have remained with their eyes closed, not even knowing they are naked and thus not able to reproduce?

Regards
DL

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Oh yeah lol I posted that just as my own blunt opinion for humor sake, that's not what I'd use to debate a theist with lol

Sweet. Fight on.

I need say no more.

Regards
DL

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My last went right over your head I see.

It didn't go over my head. I don't agree with it. That's a different kettle of fish. surely you're intelligent enough to understand the difference, but if you need help, just ask; I'll happily oblige, so long as you shitcan the condescension.

Let me try another tack since you will not recognize that you should try to love your neighbor.

Love is a special and intimate emotion I do not extend to strangers.

Do you not seek justice for those in your country? Is equality not a pert of justice?

Change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

The problem with this line of reasoning is that females in the church choose their lot. If a church, any church, tries to promulgate its beliefs through legislation, of course I will speak up. But for women who willingly accept subservience, what would you suggest I do? Kidnap and deprogram them? Freedom of conscience means that people are free to be as stupid as they wish.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

Regards
DL

This quote is a non-sequitur in the context of our discussion, because as you may have noticed, we aren't gathering women up and entraining them to camps where they are gassed to death.

True on the gas but what they face is just as vile because they cannot even escape their servitude in death.

We are letting the churches indoctrinate children into a mind set where as female adults, they allow themselves to be subjugated to men.

It is my duty to fight that when I can but if you do not see that duty in yourself then that is your decision.

Do not cry if they come for your daughters of grand daughters and they are not granted equal rights and equality that their men enjoy.

Regards
DL