(September 10, 2014 at 9:04 am)Tonus Wrote:free will is a good thing even though the exercise of it does result sometimes in a 'bad thing'; God didn't create the universe for robotic beings. when particular examples are given to prove a principle does one atheist see it and recognize that it is a logical fallacy and the kudos cabal is alerted to try to salvage the situation?(September 10, 2014 at 1:36 am)snowtracks Wrote: actually God reveals himself:But when objections are made to these --particularly the first three-- then the excuses, justifications, rationalizations, and complex interpretations begin.
through nature --- for since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen.
through a person’s conscience - the spirit, or mind. the sense of right and wrong testifies.
scripture is the His revelation.
through the person of Jesus Christ.
God reveals his invisible attributes through nature? Then smallpox is evidence that he's a horrific, abusive monster.
God reveals himself through a person's conscience? Then Charles Manson is evidence that god is a ruthless, maniacal killer.
God reveals himself through scripture? Hang on, let me find a copy of The Odyssey. He might come out only slightly deranged in this one.
God reveals himself through the person of Jesus Christ? And where would this person happen to be, at the moment?
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
