(September 13, 2014 at 10:39 pm)snowtracks Wrote: free will is a good thing even though the exercise of it does result sometimes in a 'bad thing'; God didn't create the universe for robotic beings. when particular examples are given to prove a principle does one atheist see it and recognize that it is a logical fallacy and the kudos cabal is alerted to try to salvage the situation?Not even an attempt to answer any of the points I made. Noted.
Free will results in something 'bad' if a person deviates in any way from god's rules of conduct. To the Christian this appears to be impossible to avoid, seeing as how every single human being who ever existed has sinned against god. The only exception being the time that god dressed himself in a human costume, perhaps to mock humanity for failing so badly at something that came so easily to god. Imagine that-- god was able to follow his own desires perfectly!
God may not have created the universe for robotic beings, but he certainly doesn't seem to have created it for humans, seeing as the one thing that makes us human is the one thing that puts us all on the negative side of god's ledger, without fail.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
