(September 10, 2014 at 11:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Ok, let's entertain the notion that "God" is not hidden. So where is it? Give me something I can point to and compare against non-god things.point of the story is that evidence via the 5 senses wouldn't be verifiable. one poster said they would have to ask a few questions first but that wouldn't help to establish proof.
the first 2 working together is plenty to establish God's existence; 3 and 4 is additional verification. some have a willful disbelief but feign an intellectual problem with the data, others admit the truth. of course there is problem with the truth, like the poet wrote: it like dust, it keeps hanging around, just can't get rid of the stuff.
1. " through nature --- for since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen.
2. through a person’s conscience - the spirit, or mind. the sense of right and wrong testifies.
3. scripture is the His revelation.
4. through the person of Jesus Christ."
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.