Christians. Could you be wrong?

[Huggy Bear]

the placebo effect has been known about for past 110 or so years, I think it's safe to say it's unexplainable by science.

Did you even read the article I posted? The Placebo effect works through the well known reward mechanisms (the same we experience when we eat or generally do something positive to our bodies).

I could do this all day, really...

LINKS:

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http://www.cell.com/neuron/abstract/S089...462-X?cc=y

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&...8745,d.d2s (it's a pdf)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14986780

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17017561

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Tide goes in, tide goes out, you can't explain that!

I'm kinda glad there is a kudos button since it exposes all the mental midgets.

Every link you posted compared the placebo effect as it related to Parkinson disease..

http://www.cell.com/neuron/abstract/S089...462-X?cc=y

DA activation in the NAC has been detected with positron emission tomography (PET) during receipt of a placebo in patients diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in a manner proportional to the anticipated improvement in motor control (de la Fuente-Fernandez et al., 2002).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14986780

Positron emission tomography studies have recently shown that the placebo effect in Parkinson's disease, pain, and depression is related to the activation of the limbic circuitry.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17017561

It has been shown that placebo responses play a part in the effect of any type of treatment for Parkinson's disease, including drug therapy, deep brain stimulation and dopamine tissue transplantation. Recent studies have demonstrated that the placebo effect in Parkinson's disease is related to the release of substantial amounts of endogenous dopamine in both the dorsal and ventral striatum.

This is not the placebo effect and I'll tell you why... DOPAMINE IS THE TREATMENT FOR PARKINSON'S DISEASE. So OF COURSE if someone with Parkinson's brain, for whatever reason, released dopamine, they will see improvement.

This is from your own website http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001762/

Parkinson's disease
Paralysis agitans; Shaking palsy

Last reviewed: September 25, 2013.

Parkinson's disease causes certain brain cells to die. They are the cells that help control movement and coordination. The disease leads to shaking (tremors) and trouble walking and moving.
Causes

Nerve cells use a brain chemical called dopamine to help control muscle movement. With Parkinson's disease, the brains cells that make dopamine slowly die. Without dopamine, the cells that control movement can’t send messages to the muscles. This makes it hard to control your muscles. Slowly over time, this damage gets worse. No one knows what causes these brain cells to waste away.

Treatment

There is no cure for Parkinson's disease. However, treatment can help control your symptoms.

MEDICINE

Your health care provider will prescribe medicines to help control your shaking and movement symptoms. These drugs work by increasing dopamine in your brain.

The brain producing dopamine because of reward mechanisms, which in turn has an affect on Parkinson's, is not the placebo effect.

The placebo effect is not limited to any specific disease. The example I posted was about cancer, on which dopamine has no effect.

Nice try though... really.