RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 18, 2014 at 3:36 pm
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2014 at 3:38 pm by C4RM5.)
(September 17, 2014 at 5:06 pm)Stimbo Wrote:I am from northern ireland, recently it came out in the news that 12 people who were interned had been tortured during the troubles under consent. They were arrested without trial.(September 17, 2014 at 4:57 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Yes sinning.
What exactly is sin? If I am to be accused of a crime, you'd better be damn sure of the definition of that crime.
And why does that deserve infinite torture?
Put it this way. In England, we outlawed torture way back in 1215, with the exceptions of cases where Royal Consent was given and it was in the public interest. Since then, only thirty-four Torture Warrants were issued, for cases such as the infamous Gunpowder Plot against James I. None of the cases on record ever went beyond the intended remit of the torture; ie once the objective had been achieved, the torture ended.
(September 17, 2014 at 6:09 pm)Esquilax Wrote:Do you know that the four gospels were written by people that were part of Jesus' close disciples. It is an eyewitness account.(September 17, 2014 at 5:03 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: From eye witness accounts I can undrrstand something of his personality.
You don't have eye witness anything, super stud. You've got books written years after Jesus died, by people who- within the context of the biblical narrative- never met Jesus, and who in real world terms might not even exist themselves as the consensus is generally that the gospels are anonymously authored, making claims about supposed eye witnesses who, curiously enough, never managed to write a single thing about Jesus while he was alive.
So you've got third or fourth hand accounts from nameless authors with a vested interest in making Jesus seem like a real person. Not really hugely compelling evidence, so stop trying to overstate the case.