RE: Atlas Shrugged Movie
September 20, 2014 at 3:20 am
(This post was last modified: September 20, 2014 at 3:27 am by CapnAwesome.)
(September 20, 2014 at 2:48 am)genkaus Wrote:(September 17, 2014 at 1:22 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Most religious books are.
For some reason, religious leaders are bad storytellers.
Really? I've often found religious and mythological literature to be fantastic fiction.
(September 17, 2014 at 11:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: From those on the other end of the camp, who enjoy the book, anything in particular, help me see it in a new light?
It might be a matter of personal preference - I enjoy long reflective passages in my fiction. Where the writer takes time to build up the atmosphere. Or little throwbacks to how aspects of current events relate to their childhood and how they grew up. Or which aspects of certian things appeal to the characters and why and how and if they could be mistaken. Rand does that pretty well.
(September 17, 2014 at 11:55 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: I have to add that the heroes are not inspiring and unrealistic.
The fact that they are unrealistic is what is supposed to make them inspiring.
(September 17, 2014 at 11:55 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: They basically lack any flaws and never make any real mistakes,
No, they do make mistakes.
(September 17, 2014 at 11:55 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Also there is one part of the book that particularly stuck out for me that easily could be interpreted as a criticism of literature that didn't sell very well or 'cult books'
Which part?
(September 17, 2014 at 11:55 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Ironic now that Atlas Shrugged is doing so poorly.
Not really.
You know that your style of responding is difficult to reply to because of all the editing of the quote tags? I don't really understand why it's so popular amongst forum people to reply to one thing at a time like this. It's annoying to read and I don't feel like spending half my time editing quote tags just to reply. I didn't type that much stuff, it doesn't need to be separated into 4 different sentences and neither does your 15 word reply. Perhaps this literary standard of yours is why you enjoy something as poorly written as Atlas Shrugged.
Most of your comments are just opinion statements, so no real need to reply to them. You find the characters to have flaws, I don't think they were written that way, unless you can provide some examples I'm not sure that there is more to say on that. Also Atlas Shrugged III is obviously doing poorly at the box office. I don't know how you can dispute that. It's budget was 5 million dollars and so far it's made a little more than 600,000. Just over 1/10th of it's budget. That is not just doing poorly, it's doing horrendously. If you want to dispute that or the other statements I've made you should probably try a little harder than just quoting a line at a time and saying 'No it's not' 'Yes they are' and then on top of it asking me to quote a specific example of something that happened in a book that I read almost 15 years ago. Nevertheless the part where Ayn Rand bashes on cult books is early in the book Dagny's brother and some of his cohorts are at a nefarious meeting of liberal intellectuals. One of them, a professor of some kind is bragging about how poorly one of his books has sold, all of the other characters meant to represent the liberal intellectuals agree that books that sell poorly have some sort of moral or intellectual credibility because of that, where as the protagonists disagree. It was a relatively minor part of the book but I always remember it. It's also consistent with Ayn Rand's views on Modern Art and such and I think it could be pretty easily interpreted as a distain for cult books and movies. In fact I think that Ayn Rand sold so well it part of what she claims gives her credibility and I think in that statement she is probably right. People only care when there are enough people reading or watching to care. Nobody is watching Atlas Shrugged III.
(September 20, 2014 at 3:02 am)genkaus Wrote:
(September 20, 2014 at 3:00 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Well sometimes when you read an adaptation of it. I like reading adaptations of mythology. The originals though Boooring!
Just to be clear - I'm not talking about the quran or the bible. I find those boring as fuck - even when reading the adapted, translated and abridged versions.
Well what specifically are you talking about. I don't mean saying something like 'Norse Mythology' I mean specifically what original sources of mythology do you find interesting? I'd be genuinely curious. Most of the mythology books that I've read are heavily adapted from the original sources. Most of the originals that I've tried to read I've given up on. I don't know if it's because of the difficulty of translations or what but I think they are boring. It very well could just be me as boring is a subjective thing anyway. I'd be interested in maybe making another attempt if I could be pointed to something that was actually interesting.
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