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Why Would God Hide?
RE: Why Would God Hide?
(September 21, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Madness20 Wrote: I believe that god hiding would have alot to do with our "free will" or possibly incapacity to show himself more evidently, also, would it really be a positive thing to god to show himself?
Why would a god reveal itself? If we had religious wars over imaginary gods, imagine how it'd be with certainty of him. xD

Gods of all sorts of religion didn't seem to have much of a problem showing themselves in their religious scriptures. Also in those scriptures, examples of people not believing despite them showing themselves - so the free-will argument doesn't really fly.

This is actually a reason why I don't believe in any gods. If there is any consciousness independent from and superior to the material reality - one that can alter the material reality - then you can expect natural law to be subverted and broken all the time. Which is precisely what happens in those religious texts - world-wide floods, lightnings from cloudless skies, people rising from dead, booming voices with no source, bodies of water parting automatically, fireballs shooting down from the sky - that is the sort of world we can expect to live in if any gods are real. I think that is one thing those texts did get right. But since we don't live in such a world and natural laws do function reliably, I have a good reason to believe that those gods are not just hiding but non-existent.

As for religious wars - people fight those wars because their beliefs differ. Their beliefs differ because their imaginations differ. If a god were to show himself, then all of them would believe the same thing and there would be no more need for war.
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Why Would God Hide? - by StealthySkeptic - September 6, 2014 at 1:17 am
RE: Why Would God Hide? - by psychoslice - September 6, 2014 at 1:29 am
RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Minimalist - September 6, 2014 at 1:35 am
RE: Why Would God Hide? - by StealthySkeptic - September 6, 2014 at 1:39 am
RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Minimalist - September 6, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Why Would God Hide? - by StealthySkeptic - September 6, 2014 at 2:06 am
RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Minimalist - September 6, 2014 at 2:42 am
RE: Why Would God Hide? - by StealthySkeptic - September 6, 2014 at 2:55 am
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RE: Why Would God Hide? - by StealthySkeptic - September 6, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 6, 2014 at 7:45 am
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RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Vicki Q - September 7, 2014 at 12:43 pm
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RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Whateverist - September 7, 2014 at 12:51 pm
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RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Jenny A - September 13, 2014 at 10:52 pm
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RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Madness20 - September 8, 2014 at 3:03 pm
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RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Bad Wolf - September 11, 2014 at 3:37 am
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RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Chad32 - November 6, 2014 at 11:10 am
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RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Tonus - November 10, 2014 at 7:48 pm
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RE: Why Would God Hide? - by Tonus - November 11, 2014 at 6:25 am
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