The Original Messages of Religion

[Clueless Morgan]

Too many exclamation points, and unsubstantiated claims.

Rewrite and resubmit.

Were I to show you would you be able to see past your veil?

Poisoning the well.

Once again you're assuming that no one will listen to you because we're all dogmatically clinging to a position and are simply unwilling to entertain a thoughtfully crafted argument. (Refer to this post for a reminder about the definition of an argument.)

Why not give us the benefit of the doubt and defend your position with evidence and arguments (Again, the definition here...) in support of your position instead of poisoning the well time after time?

You do this a lot, do you realize that?

Expecting others to prove things instead of seeking it for yourself, should I tell you and have you believe me what benefit would that do?

Burden of proof.

As the one asserting the position, you have the philosophical responsibility to provide evidence and arguments (Once again) in defense of your position.

So I'll ask again, since you conveniently didn't respond to my previous post: Are you going to provide a demonstration, or evidence, or arguments for why your original list of virtues are, indeed, all virtues? Or are you going to ignore the question again and continue to assert that we're too close-minded to even waste the explanation on?

Should you not look for the information yourself instead of trusting the word of a stranger?

Should you not defend your own assertions with evidence?

If you had a slight inclination of what is written in the New Testament it talks of a man who sacrificed himself for the salvation of all humanity.

It talks about a guy who was tortured to death because two people who never existed ate a piece of fruit and didn't know it was wrong to do so.

Try again.

In this Hail Mary there is acknowledgment of sin, and therefore acknowledgment that we are not perfect.

So... because some people made up a recitation saying that there was a thing called sin that you needed to be forgiven for, then sin is a real thing?

Does that also mean that because Harry Potter rode on the back of a hippogriff in The Prisoner of Azkaban that hippogriffs are real?

Once again, blind assertions mean nothing. To quote Richard Carrier, "You can't get from blind assertion to irrefutable evidence no matter how hard you try."

You're carrying the burden of proof for your case. Start ponying up.

a famous quote by the Christian prophet/god is to 'love thy neighbor, as you love thyself' another quote is to 'turn the other cheek' this preaches non-violence when confronted with violence, compassion for our fellow men.

Care to hear about how the golden rule didn't originate with Christianity, or religion?

Sextus, the pagan philosopher who lived in the first century B.C. wrote: “Such as you wish your neighbor to be to you, such also be to your neighbor.”

Pythagoras himself wrote: “Even if one is abused one should not defend thyself.” i.e. turn the other cheek

Socrates wrote in 469-399 B.C (Dialogue, the Crido): “We should never take revenge and never hurt anyone even if we have been hurt.”

“Many of the ideas of the Christians have been expressed better - and earlier - by the Greeks who were however modest enough to refrain from saying that their ideas came from a god or a son of god.”
~ Celsus, a 2nd century philosopher

These are all humbling virtues to observe, how could you not know this?

Have you defended your position that they are all humbling virtues to observe?



No.

These are among the most popular of Christian beliefs and virtues its all in their religion the same you fight against and you you could not see it?

Do you understand that just because a religion adopts something positive (like charity) that that is not a reason to defend the religion in the face of all the harm it does?