The Original Messages of Religion

[Celestine]

If I thought there was something suitable to supercede this I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing now. In Buddhism, I believe the main objective of meditation is to clear your mind to be 'empty' in the head. I can't help but feel that doesn't produce very good improvement of oneself most of nonsecular meditation is based on buddhism which I don't quite agree with is the best approach to meditation.

I don't think you read my post as illustrated by the words in bold. We're talking about non-religious alternatives to prayer. Last time I checked, Buddhism was a religion as are 'non-secular' things. Do you acknowledge that there are existing, secular alternatives?

Yes I acknowledge there are already some secular alternatives. And AGAIN if I thought they were any good, I wouldn't be trying to do what I am now.

In Buddhism, I believe the main objective of meditation is to clear your mind to be 'empty' in the head. I can't help but feel that doesn't produce very good improvement of oneself most of nonsecular meditation is based on buddhism which I don't quite agree with is the best approach to meditation.

-There we go....you have a position, you explained it.

Now, is "nonsecular meditation" actually based on buddhism? If it isn't, then when you offer your opinion on buddhism you aren't offering an opinion on "nonsecular meditation".

(would you be willing to stick to this with me for just a moment, going through step by step and making modifications -or not- until we reach a statement that we are comfortable with as having both the power to lead to the conclusion we hold, and being comprised of statements which can be agreed upon by our intended "victim" -lol- or otherwise argued to be accurate?)

I said most nonsecular meditation and while I admit I shouldn't have used the word most, it's just most from what I've seen (in fact all that I've seen really)