The Original Messages of Religion

[Celestine]

-he argued

LOL, Celstine. Possessing an argument - is merely possessing a set of statements which can be shown to be valid and sound. That is, the statements appear to be accurate, and the manner in which you've arranged them will have the power to lead to the conclusion you've offered. It has nothing to do with "arguing" in the sense that you seem to be interpreting the word. Does that help you to understand why you've been getting so much flak?

If two people both have arguments (and we all think that we do, of course) that reach entirely contradictory conclusions, it behooves us to figure out why. People just letting things fall from their mouth without considering the strength of their statements, or the statements of others, will lead nowhere but a noisier world.

The sky is blue!
The sky is red!
The sky is black!

on and on, ad infinitum.

A calm sea can turn into a violent storm without notice.

I have 'argued' in the past in your definition, only to reach the definition of what I have now. You say the sea will be calm, but I know it to be treacherous. I learn from my mistakes. Clueless Morgan and a few others were only focused on defining virtues, that is not what this discussion is about.

If I were talking about fishing, would you want me to define hooks?

No, you know what a hook is and I need not define it for you, and it would totally circumvent the more important topic about fishing. I would say that my topic has been circumvented replaced by hooks. You may lock i when you will.

There seems to be this belief that people never change their mind on the internet, but this is not true for everyone. I don't think Celestine is using the word argue the same way as others, unless he really believes in what I said earlier.

Refresh my memory on what you said earlier if you will please.