The Original Messages of Religion

[Clueless Morgan]

Perhaps you should go argue with a boulder, see if you can move it with your words.

I see that we've moved on to personal attacks. Shall we exchange some yo mamma quips or simply proceed to the girly-man street fight?



Incidentally, why don't you just answer the questions I raised in post #28? I'm sure it would be much more instructive for everyone than watching me kick yo ass (as ShaMan attests, I am a ninja.)

Then you shall understand the futility of arguing.

Perhaps you should actually read the definitions I've provided for what "argument" means, and then you would stop disingenuously equivocating on its meaning.

I should not have been so obscure with my first post but the excitement was flowing at the time, it is most likely my fault that you think I am asserting that virtues belong to religion.

That's not the main thrust of my objection to your OP at all, proving, yet again, that you have not read, nor comprehended, my responses.

I want to know specifically why you think abstinence is a virtue.

You have shown no skill on how to ask questions, if you were unsure of what I was trying to say, you could have asked.

Seriously?

READ POST #28!!!!!!

You can easily make me go away by defending the assertion in your OP that abstinence belongs in your list of virtues. Why? Explain it to me! Convince me and I'll go away! I will shut right up if you have rational reasons for including that in your list!

Why don't you provide those reasons? Or do you not have them and all of this "you're biased against me!" business in meant to distract us from the fact that you don't have reasons for what you posted?

I still do not know why you want to engage in a fruitless, frivolous, time consuming ARGUMENT about what a virtue is.

You gave a list of things you called virtues in your OP.

In a discussion forum.

And then when someone asks you why you think one of them is, actually a virtue, you think it's fruitless, frivolous and time consuming (read: a waste of time) to explain why you think that?

In any case, currently, I'm engaged in this thread because you continually demonstrate that you don't want to learn anything new, that you don't want to have to engage in anything that might result in you having to defend a position that you take, and, frankly, because at this point poking the bear has become fun.

But I hope in the future you will focus on more important things than such tripe.

Are you calling your own posts tripe?

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If I were talking about fishing, would you want me to define hooks?

How can you have a conversation about fishing if the person you're talking to defines hooks differently than you?

In order for the conversation to proceed there must first be agreement on what you're discussing.

I'm not asking you to define what a virtue is, I'm asking you to defend your assertion that abstinence is a virtue.

No, you know what a hook is and I need not define it for you, and it would totally circumvent the more important topic about fishing. I would say that my topic has been circumvented replaced by hooks.

What if you were having this conversation about fishing with a person who defined a "hook" as a whirligig? And you simply proceeded under the assumption that they defined "hook" as you do?

Provide me with an convincing explanation for why abstinence is a virtue, instead of just asserting that it is, and then you're thread will be back on track.

There seems to be this belief that people never change their mind on the internet, but this is not true for everyone. I don't think Celestine is using the word argue the same way as others, unless he really believes in what I said earlier.

Refresh my memory on what you said earlier if you will please.

Allow me to throw your own words back in your face:

Should you not look for the information yourself instead of trusting the word of a stranger?

Why don't you go back through the thread and find Chad's posts? That would be, after all, looking for the information yourself.