RE: Stephen Hawking Lays It All Out
September 24, 2014 at 6:29 pm
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2014 at 6:41 pm by Madness20.)
(September 24, 2014 at 6:11 pm)Exian Wrote:(September 24, 2014 at 5:37 pm)Madness20 Wrote: But anyway, science does not have absolute knowledge about the universe to infer if there is or not a god, science does not, at least yet, give any full explanation for our existence,
The part I have emboldened is key. For me, this is the main difference between science and religion in regards to answers. Religion is all done looking. Science, as a system of understanding reality, is not. Even when you consider science to be a body of knowledge, it isn't done looking inward.
I don't think belief in a god and science are necessarily antagonistic, that some people have a "theory" about the ultimate nature of the universe has no real contradiction with actually trying to find it.
Meh, science until XX century was mostly created by people that trully believed in a god but still had their curiosity.
In my field at least, (mathematics) we have countless stories of people trying to prove or comprehend the existance of god led them to big conclusions and create theorys that have actually alot of utility in understanding nature.
Infinity for example, is a concept that Cantor studied fully convicted that he would get some answers about god, and he ended up creating the whole field of set theory of mathematics. Curiously, he ended up with some conclusions that were actually contradictory to his initial set of beliefs: he thought there was just one kind of infinity, but ended up discovering that there exists at least 2 types of infinity, and one of them is "bigger" than the other.
What we might oppose is religions trying to allienate people from science as it's arguments are contradictory to their religions, for example in the aspect of creationism.
(September 24, 2014 at 6:26 pm)Exian Wrote: There's zero evidence for ID. You can't refute it, but you can certainly reject it. And without emotional bias.There's nothing to reject on something that doesn't even constitute a theory, unlike the idea of God.