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3 stages made me believe in Islam: 1-atheism
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RE: 3 stages made me believe in Islam: 1-atheism
Quote:So the questions I want to know what you think about is:

1-do you think we could, one day understand what non-existence is and how we come from non- existence to existence?

Okay Mo3taz ...let's take this one at a time.

1. (My apologies for the corrections but it makes it easier for someone who is fluent in English to understand your question)

I am hoping the YES, one day, we WILL understand how this "non-existence to existence" actually works. But for myself, the current 'reasoning via religion' is inadequate and seems like "so many lies told to children" and so for me is rejected due to lack of evidence.

Quote:2-what was before the existence?

This would follow (In my humble opinion) from the results of question 1.

Quote:3-can we ever understand eternity (and also no beginning)?

This moves you back to your first question. The fact that people have a very hard time comprehending the size of a galaxy (let alone a Universe) would lead me to project the hypothesis that as a species there will be a great many who think as you do because to think otherwise (just blows their mind) is incomprehensible so that like you they will opt for the simple answer...goddit

As for "eternity"... you will have to wait for others who are more scientifically educated than I

Quote:4-do you think that there are other ways to prove the existence of god without trying to ask questions we can't find an answer to (like who created god and what was before this?)

No. Mainly because of the "Lies to Children" method of explaining the wild and wonderfully weird things we find in our galaxy, planet and interactions with others. Let alone the totally strange things that might be found outside our own solar system. The question of who created god before there was all "this" is irrelevant because it assumes the existence of such a creature.


Quote:5-do you think that there is a proof that god doesn’t exist? (Percentage of existence or non existence in your opinion with the reasons)?

The many and varied 'unanswered' prayers. The brutality of so called 'religious' people who rape, murder, use, and abuse their fellow countrymen. The fact that so many of the offspring are being born with terminal diseases...(I mean really, what crime have these innocents committed??)

The fact that science can and has demonstrated the so called 'glory of god's natural world' is just an evolution process that is still ongoing (does not detract from the wonder of it all, but nothing as far as I can see requires a deity)

The fact that abrahamic-religion has failed in a major way in my personal experience and that oriental 'religion' has also failed that I have sought solace in my own capabilities to make my way in this world and what comes after comes after. I am far too busy being (to borrow a new agers phrase) 'Here and Now' to concern myself with the what-ifs.

From your post mo3taz it would seem to me that you had come face to face with your own mortality and like a scared little prey went straight to your early teachings because you did not want to or were unable to ask the hard questions and get the hard answers. It is easy to be a slave and abdicate any responsibility for one's own life and choices; and so human to seek a "scapegoat" to bear the burden of one's inadequacies

I am hoping this is of assistance to your understanding of mine and others reasoning as to why we find your assertions a bit dull since they have been spoken of before by many others who have not necessarily been of the islamic faith.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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RE: 3 stages made me believe in Islam: 1-atheism - by KichigaiNeko - June 21, 2010 at 5:26 am

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