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infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
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infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
As you all know I was a muslim before. In this thread i will explain why I dont believe it anymore.
Quran has too many conflicts and several clue that it's just a book written by selfish sick bastard.
I already mentioned about that crucial math error in another thread so i will not repeat again.
But im happy to say allah is not good at mathSmile

We can't believe islam even if we want to! Thats right our eyes were sealed by god..
Quote:Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe.
Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.
baqarah 6-7(2:6,7)
and quran loves to repeat itselfSmile
Quote:And We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And when you mention your Lord alone in the Qur'an, they turn back in aversion.
Isra 46.(17:46)
yes we cant believe allah becouse our ears and eyes are sealed.
But he will send us to hell anyway.
Really fair god!
But ask yourselves why he wants to do this?Again answer is in quran
Quote:And if we had willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me will come into effect [that] "I will surely fill Hell with jinn and people all together.
he made a promise you see! Thats why we are going to burn eternally.

Quote:And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind. They have hearts with which they do not understand, they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear. Those are like livestock; rather, they are more astray. It is they who are the heedless.
Araf 179(7:179)
Enough messing with god i think lets get to muhammed now.
He is really a pervert im telling you! Or his god is a pervert and forcing him to do such things.

Quote:O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.
Why this privilege? becouse he wrote the damn thing!

Muhammed gets bored with his guests. You know this happens sometimes to all of us..
But muhammed has an imaginary friend to get rid of themBig Grin
Quote:O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity.
Azhab 53.(33.53)
thats right muhammed use this shitty book for all of his needs.
to be continued..
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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#2
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
Are you saying that muhammed was a tyrant leader who created a whole religion, placed himself at the centre of it just to rule over a bunch of gullible tribal peasants?
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#3
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
no no no im not. But quran does.
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
I see Big Grin Now I understand Islam Great
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
1-"6-As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.7-Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)."(Quran 2:6-7)

you have a very big problem that you cant continue to read the context so you can understand

"8-Of the people there are some who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day;" but they do not (really) believe.9-Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realise (it) not! 10-In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves).11-When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" 12-Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not.13-When it is said to them: "Believe as the others believe:" They say: "Shall we believe as the fools believe?" Nay, of a surety they are the fools, but they do not know."(Quran 2:8-13)
you can use this beside copy and paste from websites: http://www.harunyahya.com/Quran_translat..._index.php

2-the same problem you have to continue the rest of the verses to understand:
"47-We know best why it is they listen, when they listen to thee; and when they meet in private conference, behold, the wicked say, "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched!" 48-See what similes they strike for thee: but they have gone astray, and never can they find a way.49-They say: "What! when we are reduced to bones and dust, should we really be raised up (to be) a new creation?" 50-Say: "(Nay!) be ye stones or iron, 51-"Or created matter which, in your minds, is hardest (to be raised up),- (Yet shall ye be raised up)!" then will they say: "Who will cause us to return?" Say: "He who created you first!" Then will they wag their heads towards thee, and say, "When will that be?" Say, "May be it will be quite soon!"(Quran 17:47-51)

3-also the context of the verses mentioned:
10-And they say: "What! when we lie, hidden and lost, in the earth, shall we indeed be in a Creation renewed? Nay, they deny the Meeting with their Lord.11-Say: "The Angel of Death, put in charge of you, will (duly) take your souls: then shall ye be brought back to your Lord."12-If only thou couldst see when the guilty ones will bend low their heads before their Lord, (sayingSmile "Our Lord! We have seen and we have heard: Now then send us back (to the world): we will work righteousness: for we do indeed (now) believe."13-If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, "I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together."14-"Taste ye then - for ye forgot the Meeting of this Day of yours, and We too will forget you - taste ye the Penalty of Eternity for your (evil) deeds!"(Quran 32:10-14)
the last verse clearly say the reason for the verse you quoted

4-(Quran 7:179) the reason they are going to hell is mentioned in the verse and you quoted it but you probably didnt read it first or you read it and you cant understand it Wink
no one is going to hell without a reason that is your choice and your free will to do the good thing or the bad thing

at last i gave you an example of the mistake you are doing if you are not doing it intentionally.if you continue doing this i will just put to you the number of the verses that will make you understand for the sake of the other members
about the mathimatical error i quoted to you the verses that says that there is something called shura that they decide the law under the general rules of the Quran i also clarified how many situations solved by only these two verses and i clarified that you are talking about exceptions that is never mentioned in the Quran in no needed details.thats all i can do if you still think its a mistake i have nothing to do with that its your problem Smile

am sorry to say this but you are ignoring parts of my answers(even if i give you evidence),continue claiming wrong things even after clarification and asking the same questions or claims several times(even if i answered them) and also in different subjects so from now i will just ignore any of the behaviors i mentioned above as it is not adding anything to our conversation or to any of the members Smile
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
Harun Yahya is the Islamic moron who think's he's disproved Evolution despite not doing any actual research in the field, and spending all his time spouting a mixture of lies and misrepresentations. I wouldn't trust anything on his website.
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
Quote:you can use this beside copy and paste from websites: http://www.harunyahya.com/Quran_translat..._index.php
I dont use copy paste works! Please show some respect! and for all quotations of quran i use this website: http://quran.com/2
(if they are copy paste works please find the sources! prove that i am steeling from websites!)
Anyway i dont want to borepeople with pages of verses. Muslims always claim that we are using only one verse. what could it be after these verses to make them better?
you can read it all but it is just as i said...
Besides harun yahya(adnan oktar) is a huge liar you know that right?
Please do not send me harun yahya's or Fetullah Gulen's bullshits..
Quote:am sorry to say this but you are ignoring parts of my answers(even if i give you evidence),continue claiming wrong things even after clarification and asking the same questions or claims several times(even if i answered them) and also in different subjects so from now i will just ignore any of the behaviors i mentioned above as it is not adding anything to our conversation or to any of the members
dude I have never seen more irrelevant answers. thats why sometimes i ignore you. Your last post in simple mathematical error. that was really funny! You could just say "banana hammock" instead of that post. how did you find those verses mate? with lottery?
your so called answers could be anything but not the answers to my posts.

And now you are really silent when it comes to muhammed's sexual life.
didn't comment on AHZAB 50.(33:50)
I wonder how you will try to save your prophet this time(please don't think you saved before) ROFLOL
(July 1, 2010 at 2:56 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Harun Yahya is the Islamic moron who think's he's disproved Evolution despite not doing any actual research in the field, and spending all his time spouting a mixture of lies and misrepresentations. I wouldn't trust anything on his website.
In turkish atheist forums, you can't use Harun yahya's stupid lies as argument for he is a known liar.(and his arguments are really stupid) Its just a general ruleBig Grin
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
(July 1, 2010 at 2:29 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: ....some ancient tribal bullcrap.

The more you post, the more I realize that my preconceived notions about the followers of Islam are correct.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
(July 1, 2010 at 2:56 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Harun Yahya is the Islamic moron who think's he's disproved Evolution despite not doing any actual research in the field, and spending all his time spouting a mixture of lies and misrepresentations. I wouldn't trust anything on his website.



Ah but he tells the morons what they want to hear and they love his sorry ass for it.

In fact, he provides the same service that answersingenesis does for xtian idiots.
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#10
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
it seriously looks like this Harun Yahya is doing what hes doing for $$$$. nothing more nothing less. if i search him up and find his house and car. i guarantee he has a Mercedes. hes cashing in on the people of islam for what....books. atlases of creation? well then again at least he hasnt bombed anyone to prove something.
"fuck freedom it doesn't exist in reality. we are all victims of our own doubt" - made that up myself june 28th, 2010
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