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3 stages made me believe in Islam: 1-atheism
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RE: 3 stages made me believe in Islam: 1-atheism
(June 22, 2010 at 2:51 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: @KichigaiNeko i always thought that as you are saying about atheists knowing most skriptures but yet most of you here are saying ebrahamic god when god is diffirent in the 3 ebrahamic religions thats gave me the idea that you only read the bible. and you always guys accuse the Quran with things in the bible and the torah even in some atheist books or articles they do the same i hope that if someone have read the Quran to open a thread about that

Firstly, let's just tidy up your English ...hmm??? Here we go
Quote:I always thought that as you are saying about atheists knowing most scriptures; what I find confusing is that most of you here are speaking of an Abrahamic god. God is different in the 3 Abrahamic religions; this is what gave me the impression that you (meaning everyone on this forum) only read the Christian bible. The seeming fact that you guys always accuse the Quran with things in the bible and the torah; even in some atheist books and articles I find the same i hope that if someone have read the Quran to open a thread about that.

Sorry mo3taz....I hope I have not offended you but to us (of the English speaking persuasion) the above reconstruction of your post reads a bit better and I am hoping that we can make sense of your question.

And now to my reply....

The "Abrahamic God" of 'The Torah', 'The Q'ran' and 'The Bible' are considered one in the same. The name may be changed but the deity is the same desert god worshiped by the Semitic peoples of the Middle Eastern countries as opposed to deities worshiped by say: the Scandinavian countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology

Reading these texts as just a book one cannot help but come to several conclusions:

1. the tome was written by the victors of a war
2. Is an attempt to expand on Hammurabi's code - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi -
3. Is a method for controlling the masses (the 'Semites are a stiff necked peoples' the 'Arabs are a small people a petty people' the 'rustics are an uneducated people'

Looking at these three "sacred texts" is enough to make any thinking person question the existence of this supposed deity. The records of rape, murder, plunder, abuse, slavery (which was standard at the time of writing these works), the purported "glory" of war and winning under this particular deity permeates all pages.

Quite enough to make a pacifist violently ill really. (Let alone an integrity centred atheist)

The accusations against the Q'ran are as valid as those posited against the Torah and the Bible....

What you fail to comprehend is that you have "infidel" = "outsiders" looking at this body of work and criticising it for what it is and what it says. By no means to say that atheists are taking the moral 'High Ground' BUT one cannot be blamed in the 21st Century to look at such works as out dated and irrelevant to today's tribalism. In other words...your 'holy text' is out of date.

Your Q'ran, along with any other 'sacred text' is woefully out of date and only survives as a curiosity and support to the fundamental principle that humans are STILL busy with Tribalism and not ready for anything more...let alone this 'kingdom of heaven' that the books bleat about.

Should you want to "enlighten the world" my friend I might suggest that you look to mating with an "infidel" ditching your 'holy book' and living a life of scepticism and wonder and not attributing it to anything more than the fact that it exists at all and you are alive to witness it. As far as science is concerned...(I personally do NOT worship at the feet of science) ...it is a wondrous tool for finding out just what the heck is out there and how it works...nothing more.

I am hoping this is of assistance to you my friend.

I would still like to know which language is your mother tongue so I can show you how ridiculous translators are....

And no ...you will never have me open a thread on the Q’ran as I do not think it is a book worthy of attention.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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RE: 3 stages made me believe in Islam: 1-atheism - by KichigaiNeko - June 22, 2010 at 6:01 am

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