RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
September 27, 2014 at 8:43 am
(September 26, 2014 at 7:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(September 26, 2014 at 6:50 pm)Natachan Wrote: No, it doesn't. How does the existence and labeling of a pattern indicate an intelligent designer? You haven't addressed this point. This pattern is simply a label we use, we made it up to explain certain phenomena. It is completely arbitrary to how we perceive the universe. So how does it indicate an intelligent designer?
We are led to believe that the creation of the universe and everything in it, are nothing more than a chain of random events, but yet upon closer examination we see the same sequence of numbers (or ratio) in the shape of the universe, down to shape of DNA, yet were supposed to believe this is random? just a matter of physics?
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I went out last night.
Yes. Certain things happen in certain ratios simply due to the nature of matter. It also appears the same because, as I pointed out, it is convenient for us to use those labels because that is how we conceptualize the universe. There might be other systems of mathematics which rely on variables we don't understand in which case these ratios would be meaningless. But we don't conceptualize the universe that way.
Quote:Then explain why the honey bee reproduces in the same sequence? and why the ratio of the females divided by the males come out to the same ratio? reproduction has nothing to do with physics.
I'm not a biologist, so I can't give you a full answer. I will instead say (again) that we are pattern seeking animals and we tend to see things in that way. From what comments you've posted on this seems to just be a simple exponential growth curve, which seems fairly reasonable. Again, we are pattern seekers, this doesn't indicate an intelligent designer, nearly that we observe the universe in a specific way.
Now if I was a timeless entity I would create a mathematical system that relies on a variable in time. All my physics and number systems would rely on a system that worked in this fashion.