(September 28, 2014 at 2:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I'm trying very hard, as I usually do, to speak in everyday language avoiding clichés and Christian speak. I hate those, as I think it's very hard to understand for anyone. Mr included, from my atheist background. Bible speak is not really in my vocabulary. Rhythm here is the one using the big words. In asking for real examples in the real world, and offering answers in the same vein. I've challenged simple example with logic. As rationally as I can. If you can find logical fault, then I'd love to hear it. Your post in particular is full of Christian rhetoric.
Okay. You stated above a few posts, that God doesn't send people to hell, that we choose it. I'm paraphrasing.
That's illogical, as there's no objective proof of a god as far as all can tell, and if one should exist, there's no proof that he created heaven/hell, etc. It's illogical to take your opinion or your faith beliefs, and hand them to me as fact.