(September 29, 2014 at 11:53 pm)Esquilax Wrote:i can only give you the facts, not the brains to understand the facts. now, sit down and take notes.(September 29, 2014 at 11:37 pm)snowtracks Wrote: deader than a door nail to consciousness does not fit in the purely physical world of naturalism; whereas, in a theistic world, self-conscious awareness would be expected as experienced. Consciousness came from that which is conscious.
Here's the thing: you can keep asserting that consciousness and naturalism are mutually exclusive, and all it does is make you look like a jackass. Because it's been explained to you that this is not the case, and why it is not the case, in another thread.
Continuing to use an argument that has been addressed as though it hasn't just makes it seem as though you are either profoundly stupid, or dishonest. Couching it in the barely literate language you have here just makes the former a safer bet.
Edited to add: Oh, and incidentally, why would consciousness be expected in a theistic worldview? What reason do you have to expect that a god would create consciousness, and what evidence have you used to derive that conclusion? It's very easy to just say something would be expected, but can you support that claim?
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.