(October 2, 2014 at 1:33 pm)Blackout Wrote:(October 2, 2014 at 1:02 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: This is nothing like that. This is a community that pays only 120 swiss things per capita a month for their local facilities.
This is extremely sharply budgetted in a country where a roadworker or cleaner (whom the community needs to rent for maintenance and stuff) makes over 4000 euros a month. And where costs of immigrants are apparently allocated to local taxes.
That's irrelevant, if you wish to stay you have to pay your cost, the state isn't there to babysit you with taxes. It doesn't matter if you are cheap or expensive, would it make things different? It's still unethical and economically inefficient - I wouldn't be able to live being supported by other people unless I had no absolute choice.
Ah. Okay. I kinda feel the same. But I'm a guy with a working wife and zero kids from one of the wealthiest countries in the world.
I don't have to choose to either go to work or take care of my 7 kids (or send them to kindergarten, which would cost the community even more, at least, it would in my country.)
Knowing all this about myself kinda colours my thinking. Would I pay tax to support a - lets say - jezudi family that just escaped IS and is traumatized too much to be a real asset to my community right away?
My answer is yes. I will if I can. Yet it should be within reason. In Holland we got the same system as in switzerland. Lots of costs of immigrants are being allocated locally. I lived in a place with lots of them, and paid for the costs. Now another community, that isn't carrying - any - of said costs starts whining that they have to carry some of the costs as well. And they do so by telling me they used to pay a lot less than me!
This does not go over well with me.
What's your perspective on these things?
