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Why did God require a sacrifice of Himself to Himself?
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RE: Why did God require a sacrifice of Himself to Himself?
(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: You don't seem to grasp what accepting Him means. It's like accepting the command "love your neighbor".

Forced compassion. Nice. It's not enough to love someone on my own volition, but I have to be commanded to do it.

(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: Probably becaues robots are boring, duh.

So we're here for God's amusement?

(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: It would be wise to replace "the God of the Bible" with "tavarish of the Atheist Forums", and my bet is on you not existing.

Have you ever had a conversation with God on an internet message forum? How about in person?

I can demonstrate that I exist - can your God?

Quote:An infinite being that could have literally solved all of man's problems and he does a bunch of parlor tricks in a place where miracle working and superstition is common.

(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: God was represented here and we're told to cherish essential, correct ideas.

Like slavery and death for blasphemy. Great, wholesome ideas.

(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: How can you blame God? Man simply lacks the will to be without problems, because he thinks he can find a "better" way.

Actually, it's demonstrably proven that we have found better ways - for literally everything without the help of any supernatural force. We tend to fix things by ourselves over time and learn from our mistakes. You can't will yourself to be without problems, it's the way of the universe - entropy is a fickle bitch.

Quote:He could have solved world hunger or given insight into the world of medicine, but he decided to walk on water and turn water into wine. For the sake of argument, I'm assuming the gospels are true.


(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: The irony is that He did solve world hunger and disease, man is simply unwilling to accept the solution.

Actually, please tell me what the solution to the problem of world hunger and disease is. This could actually be the most important discovery ever. I'm all ears.

(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: Your problem is that you require God to hand you paradise. No wonder you don't like God, spoiled rotten brats never do.

I'm sorry, I'm not the one proclaiming that I'll get everlasting reward for believing something and not dependent on my character or actions, and apparently I'm the one that is spoiled rotten?

An infinitely capable being comes down to Earth and does some magic tricks to impress some incorrigible people in an undeveloped part of the world two thousand years ago, and you expect me to believe that? That's like having the power to do anything you like for a day, and you spend the day lighting farts.

It's ridiculous that people actually believe this.

Quote:Nope, it's better to heal one or two people and then have it written about decades after the fact via a massive game of telephone.


(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: You look right past the point and then make exclaimations. Who cares.

And what's the point?

tavarish Wrote:It would have been awesome if Jesus gave some insight into some scientific ventures, like the theory of relativity, or even gravity.

(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: At least then the people could eat - like they do now, or not.

This doesn't make sense.

tavarish Wrote:Woops, what we got was some vague guidelines about how to treat slaves and to sell all of your shit.

(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: You should try it.

Would you like to trade slaves? I'm afraid one of mine will die if I beat him once more. Can't have that now, can we?

(June 25, 2010 at 2:58 am)ecolox Wrote: God was just trying to help and all you can do is gripe and complain. I like being a human. It's rad.

God was trying to help? Excuse me, but that's a shitty way of rectifying a situation. "I can help all of these people, but I will only help a few and then die and leave them to their own devices." I'm sure any one of us could have done a much better job than Jesus did in such an area, and I doubt any of us are proclaimed to be "all-loving".

Absolutely ridiculous.
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RE: Why did God require a sacrifice of Himself to Himself? - by tavarish - June 25, 2010 at 4:34 pm

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