RE: Oh jesus you naughty boy. Better luck next time.
October 5, 2014 at 11:16 pm
(This post was last modified: October 5, 2014 at 11:27 pm by HopOnPop.)
(October 5, 2014 at 9:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That decision has been overturned...even when it is correctly quoted as "falsely shouting fire in a crowded theater."
Thanks for the corrections and info. However, this was merely one specific case (for which I never directly cited myself) and the overturning of it does not invalidate criminalization of what is coloquially called "FALSELY shouting fire in a crowded theatre" AKA, incitement to do violence, in the US. It merely narrowed the scope and reach of laws based upon the principle. There are still other cases in the US that uphold other forms of incitement as criminal. United States v Turner is a good example. Another lower court case from the same region (Chicago) was that of William White, who was recently sentenced to 3+ years for the act of inciting violence against others. I am sure there are many others too (but you can use Google as well as me).
But discussing the details of what does and doesn't constitute criminal incitement in the US is missing the point. The fact remains that societies from around the world , and throughout time, have often interpretted incitement to do violence (directly and indirectly) as wrong and worthy of some kind of punishment. I am (still) asserting that, in a small way, that face-humping Jesus in a Christian dominated town on the lawn of the church might be seen as falling along this spectrum *abeit in a very tiny way*....and thus a bit of community service does not seem out of line to me.
(Please someone restore my faith in atheism here by demonstrating they, at least, understand what I am saying -- and if you disagree give a REAL objection to this point I am making. So far, you all seem dogmatically determined to defend this kid simply because you all approve of his attitudes toward the supernatural <<-- yes, I am attempting to bait you, and I hope you all take it in good humor from the new guy who means it in a good natured way).